testimony of Giles Eustas
|#198: Office c.  Giles Eustas  - Response of Defendant, 1491-03-01|
|source||London Metropolitan Archives, MS DL/C/A/001/MS09065, 83rv|
|summary||Responds regarding disputed tithe collection on lands lying in Hornsey Park which the defendant holds from the bishop of London. States that it is commonly said that two thirds of its territory are situated within the parish of Harringay and a third within the parish of Finchley, and that tithe payments correspond in ratio to the distribution of property within either parish, two-thirds to Harringay, one-third to Finchley. Last year, when the rector of Finchley requested he pay the full tithe from Hornsey Park, he denied owing any money and claimed to have already paid his tithe-collector the third that he owes for the parish of Finchley.|
|placenames||Middlesex - Highgate Middlesex - Harringay Middlesex - Hornsey Park Middlesex - Finchley|
|remarks||This tithe dispute relates to Hornsey Park (sometimes called Haringey Park), a manor of the bishop of London. See Edward Walford, Old and New London (1878), 5:428-37, at British History Online. According to VCH Middlesex, 6:55 (at British History Online), the part of the bishop`s park that fell in Finchley was transferred to the bishop`s lordship of Hornsey in 1491 - perhaps as a result of this tithe dispute.|
Giles Eustas was also mentioned in another London Consistory case in 1489.
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|Responses personally made by Giles Eustas|
Giles Eustas of Highgate, parish of Harringay, sworn etc. on the positions etc. To the first position, he believes that he is the rector of the parish church of Finchley and thus is commonly said, held, and reputed. To the second position, he believes it and its contents. To the third position, it is improper and improperly conceived, although he believes that Master John Bell`s predecessors were in possession of the reception of tithes coming from within the boundaries and limits of the said parish. To the fourth and fifth positions, he admits their contents. To the sixth position, [he says] that the lands situated and lying within the park called Hornsey Park are situated and lie in the parishes of Harringay and Finchley, [...] two-thirds as it is commonly said are situated within the parish of Harringay and a third within the parish of Finchley, which this witness firmly believed from the time of discretion and believes and in which he trusted and trusts. This witness has held these lands from the bishop of London [... for] the last six years continuously, from which assessment of both animal pasture and animal feed he has paid annually in money two-thirds to the rector of Harringay or to his substitute representative, and this witness has paid proportionately a third part of the tithes for those six years annually to the representative of the rector of Finchley for the time being, sometimes to Sir Robert whose surname he does not know, the chaplain celebrating in that church and the representative of the said rector, and sometimes to Sir Richard, chaplain and representative of Master John. And as for this present year, this witness says that he will be ready to pay the tithes coming from a third part of the said lands to the rector of Finchley or his representative [.....]. And he does not believe its other contents. To the seventh position, this position is imperfect and unsuitable, although he says that the true value by the year by common [...] estimation of a third part coming from the said park amounts to two shillings, and thus he gave to Thomas Chamell for payment to the current rector. To the eighth and ninth positions, he says that last year the rector required this [witness] to pay him tithes from the said park, and this witness responded that he owed nothing because he had already paid his tithe-collector, and he does not believe their other contents. To the tenth position, he believes that it is indeed disputed. To the eleventh position, he admits its contents. To the twelfth position, he believes what is to be believed and does not believe what is not to be believed.
|Responsiones personaliter facte per Egidium Eustas |
Egidius Eustas de Highgate parrochie de Haringey, juratus etc. super posicionibus etc. Ad primam posicionem, credit quod est rector ecclesie parrochie de Fyncheley et sic est communiter dictus, tentus, et reputatus. Ad secundam posicionem, credit eandem et contenta in eadem. Ad iii posicionem, inepta est et inepte concepta, credit tamen predecessores dicti Magistri Johannis Bell erant in possessione percipiendi decimas infra fines et limites dicte parrochie sue provenientes. Ad iiii et vtam posiciones, fatetur contenta in eisdem. Ad sextam posicionem, [dicit] quod terre situate et iacentes infra parcum vocatum Harinsey Park situantur et iacent in parrochiis de Haringey et Fyncheley [...] due partes ut communiter et vulgariter dicitur situantur infra parrochia de Haringey et tercia pars infra parrochia de Fyncheley cui dicto iste juratus firmiter adhesit a tempore discrecionis sue et adheret ac fidem adhibuit et adhib[et]. Quarum terrarum firmam iste juratus tenuit de domino Episcopo London [...] vi annos [?continuos] et ultimos preteritos pro quibus tam pro agistandis animalium pasturis et pastiis solvit in pecunia annuatim duas partes dicto rectori de Haringey seu saltem eius sufficienti procuratori et terciam partem earum d[ecimarum] iste juratus iuxta ratam dicte partis annuatim dictis sex annis solvit procuratori dicti Rectoris de Fyncheley pro tempore existentis, quandoque domino Roberto cuius cognomen nescit exprimere capellano celebranti in dicta ecclesia et dicti rectoris procuratori et quandoque domino Ricardo capellano et procuratori dicti Magistri Johannis. Et quantum ad annum presentem dicit iste juratus quod paratus erit solvere de[cimas] provenientes de tercia parte dictarum terrarum rectori de Fyncheley seu eius procuratori q[..] proven[...]. Et alia contenta in eadem non credit. [fol. 83v] Ad septimam posicionem, dicta posicio est imperfecta et incongrua, dicit tamen quod verus annis valor decimarum communi h[...] estimacione de tercia parte dicti parci proveniencium extendit se ad summam ii s. et sic tradidit ad firmam rectori moderni Thome Chamell. Ad octavam et ix posiciones, dicit quod anno ultimo preterito prefatus rector requisivit istum [juratum] sibi solvere decimas de dicto parco et iste juratus eidem respondit quod nichil debet eo quod solvit firmario suo et alia contenta in eisdem non credit. Ad x positionem, credit quod est de facto querelatum. Ad xi posicionem, fatetur contenta in eodem. Ad xii posicionem, credit de creditis et non credit de non creditis.
| Highgate was in the parish of Harringay, Middlesex.|
 "He" is presumably Master John Bell.
 See remarks.